Junkyard Single/ Twin Turbo FAQ List

[ocshaman]

This is a list of all turbos that can be used for a twin turbo setup.

BUICK GNX 87 3.8L GAR TB0348
BUICK Monte Carlo/Regal 78-83 3.8L carbed GAR TB0348
BUICK Riviera 80-85 3.8L GAR TB0308
BUICK Grand National/T-Type 86-87 3.8L (Intercooled) GAR TB0348 (TA48)
BUICK Trans Am 89 3.8L GAR TB0348 (water)
BUICK Century 78 3.8L GAR TB0301
BUICK Century 79 3.8L GAR TB0304
BUICK Century 80 3.8L GAR TB0308
GMC Syclone/Typhoon 4.3L Mitsu TDO6 17C/10cm2
 
CHRYSLER Conquest, Intercooled 87 2.6L MHI TD05
CHRYSLER Laser (Auto) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD04 13g
CHRYSLER Laser (Manual) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD05H 14b
CHRYSLER LeBaron 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER LeBaron 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER New Yorker 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER New Yorker 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
CHRYSLER Town & Country 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER Town & Country 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
CHRYSLER Charger/Shelby 87-90 2.2L GAR TB03 (water)
CHRYSLER Shelby CSX-Daytona/Baron GTC/Shadow ES 89-90 2.2L GAR TB03 VNT (variable nozzle)
 
DODGE 600 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE 600 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Aries 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
DODGE Caravan 89-90 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Conquest (Intercooled) 87 2.6L MHI TD05
DODGE Daytona 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Daytona Shelby 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
DODGE Daytona Shelby 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Lancer 89 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Lancer 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Lancer 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Omni 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Shadow 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Shadow 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Shadow 87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Spirit 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
 
EAGLE Talon (Manual) 90-94 2.0L MHI TD05H 14b
EAGLE Talon (Auto) 90-95 2.0L MHI TD04 13g
EAGLE Talon (Manual) 95-98 2.0L MHI T25 (45 trim)
 
FORD Mustang GT 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
FORD Mustang GT/T-bird 83-84 GAR (AiR) TB0344
FORD Probe GT 88-92 2.2L IHI RHB52W
FORD T-Bird 85-86 2.3L (auto) GAR (AiR) TB0344 (45 trim oil only)
FORD T-Bird 85-86 2.3L (Manual) GAR (AiR) TB03 60 trim (watercooled)
FORD T-Bird 87-88 (water) IHI RHB52
FORD Fiesta 90+ 1.6L GAR T2
FORD Escort 84-86 IHI RHB5
 
MAZDA 626, MX6 88-92 2.2L IHI RHB52W
MAZDA 323 GTX turbo 88-89 1.6L IHI RHB52W (water)
 
MERCEDES 300D, SDT, TD 78-84 3.0L GAR TA0301
MERCEDES 300SDL 78-83 3.0L GAR TA0301
MERCEDES 300SDL (Calif.) 86-87 3.0L GAR TB0359
 
MERCURY Capri 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
MERCURY Cougar 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
MERKUR XR4Ti 85-88 2.3L GAR TB0344
 
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Auto) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD04 13g
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Manual) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD05H 14b
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Manual) 95-98 2.0L MHI T25 (45 trim)
MITSUBISHI Galant (Manual) 88-94 2.2L MHI TD05H
MITSUBISHI Starion (Intercooled) 85-87 2.6L MHI TD05
 
PLYMOUTH Acclaim 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Caravelle 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Caravelle 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
PLYMOUTH Conquest, Intercooled 85-89 2.6L MHI TD05
PLYMOUTH Laser (Auto) 89-94 2.0L MHI TD04
PLYMOUTH Laser (Manual) 89-94 2.0L MHI TD05H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 87 2.2L GAR TB0335
PLYMOUTH Voyager 89-90 2.5L MHI TE04H
 
PONTIAC Sunbird GT 88-90 2.0L GAR T2
PONTIAC Sunbird GT 84-86 1.8L GAR T2
PONTIAC Grand Prix  89-90 3.1L GAR T25 (water)
 
SAAB 9000 (16V Intercooled) 87-88 2.0L GAR TB0356
SAAB 900 (16V Intercooled) 87 2.0L GAR TB0339 (Oilcld)
SAAB 900 (16V Intercooled) 84-86 2.0L GAR TB0339 (Oilcld)
SAAB 9000 (16V Intercooled) 85-86 2.0L GAR TB0343
SAAB 900 (8V, APC) 82-84 2.0L GAR TB0321
 
VOLVO 200 82-84 2.3L GAR TB0313
VOLVO 740 89-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 740 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 760 89-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 760 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 780 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
VOLVO 780 90 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 780 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 940 91-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 200 Watercooled Upgrade 82-84 2.3L GAR TB0368
VOLVO 740 (Oil Cooled) 83-85 2.3L GAR TB0326
VOLVO 740 (Watercooled) 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
VOLVO 760 (Oil Cooled) 83-86 2.3L GAR TB0326
VOLVO 760 (Watercooled) 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
 
VW Passat, 97+ (oil) 1.8L GAR GT15
 
GAR=Garrett=AiResearch, MHI=Mitsubishi Heavy industries, MIT=Mitsubishi


Note that most of them are for engines between 2 and 3 liters.  These are the best size for a 5 liter because 2 of them would equal between 4 and 6 liters.

For questions about the Mistubishi turbos, Turbostangman will probably be able to answer them, because he has designed a kit with them and works with them in his business.

Most guys run Ford Knockoffs, notably the 69 trim models because they move more air in the upper RPMS, and don't run out of steam.

[Trentk]

Aside from the most important part, the turbo, there are many parts to making a turbo kit, many of which wouldn't be thought of until the project is underway. Here is a list of parts that i have gathered.

MAF - most prefer Pro-m Universal or BUllet, because the MAf takes readings at any angle

INJECTORS - Most will recommend at least 36# injectors. take into consideration what HP goal you have before you buy this item

FUEL PUMP - At least a 255 intank is needed, and alot of people will upgrade to a T-rex or other in-line pump as a safety measure.

PIPING - Mandrel bent piping is usually the hardest thing about fabbing a turbo kit. Many places sell mandrel bent piping. SUmmitracing.com is one place that comes to mind.

OIL LINES - Most turbos are oil cooled. The turbo will need an oil feed line and an oil drain line. Here are example instructions on making an oil drain line

To tap the pan you have to use a punch to roll over the edges to have enough threads for the pipe to hold. You can put some grease on the tap but the number of shavings is very minimal. IMO. That is what oil filters are for.

As far as taping the pan location its under the 2 7/16 bolt about a inch down. I use a 5/8 barbed fitting. Drain the oil out of the pan. Drill hole, then tap the hole. After its all done take brake cleaner or carb cleaner and spray from one side of the pan to the other to wash the shavings away. Yes the oil filter will catch the small stuff but you don't want to ruin the oil pump with shavings either. I did mine on the car without any trouble. When you install the fitting to the pan put some RTV on it to keep it from leaking.

For the feed source, install a 1/8 brass "T" inbetween the block and the oil sendind unit. If you doing twins then use 2 "t's" Also don't use anything bigger than a 3/16 or -4 line. Too much oil to the turbos will cause the seals to leak. Hope this helps.

GAUGES - Gauges are an important tool in keeping a turbo mustang alive. Altough some gauages usability and importance are argueable, here is the general list of needed gauges

EGT - Exhaust Gas Temperature Gauge. Using a probe inserted into the exhaust stream, it measures the temperatures of exhuast gases.

Fuel Pressure Gauge - Measures the pressure flowing through the lines so that you can tell if you are having fuel problems at any point.

Boost Gauge - Tells what PSIl, or BAR for the foreign people, the car is running, and is a great safety tool to make sure that the turbo is working correctly.

I am sure that i am leaving something out, but there are many helpful people that can add and subtract to this list.

[ocshaman]

In order to get an idea of Jy kits, here are a few websites to look at and get an idea of setup, and other good info.

www.toohighpsi.com is what most people will recommend the beginner to read many times before asking questions about turboing a mustang

Twin turbo site
http://www.twinturbostang.com/

Carb twin turbo setup
http://turbostang.oldwestracing.com/

[Turbostangman]

Over the years there have been a LOT of Factory Vehicles that used intercoolers. Some are very well suited for use with DIY/JYTT with a little modifications.

JY Intercoolers
The most comonly used Intercoolers for DIY/JYTT Set-up are:

1)99+ Powerstroke Turbo deisel. Usualy needs to be cut down to fit the front of a Stang. Supports ~400+HP

2)84+ SVO/Turbo T-bird. Two or three of these cores makes for a pretty decent sized Horizontal flow IC. Two should support ~400-500HP.

3)90-94 DSM Intercoolers. Combining Three is recomended to make a vertical flow IC and should support ~500HP

4)Ford Probe GT Turbo. Left to right cores mated top to bottom should spport ~400HP.

You can also view a host of other Intercoolers at http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_coolers.html

You can also use Aftremarket Intercoolers that are available from a number of manufacturers.

[luvtolean]

Sweet, the thread.  How about turbos for single set-ups, and what's needed?

IE, the Powerstroke turbos and the oil hook-up "issue".

[ocshaman]

Originally posted by luvtolean
Sweet, the thread.  How about turbos for single set-ups, and what's needed?

IE, the Powerstroke turbos and the oil hook-up "issue".

Turbostangman and i are talking about it.  The only turbos that i can think of are

tp-38 Powerstroke
Hx-series and the other CUmmins turbos

t4 from the big f-800's and the likes
You can find the T04's on some heavy duty fords (F700's and bigger), some farm tractors, International's ( DT466, DT444, these are like the ice trucks, budweiser trucks, Pepsi trucks, and some U-hauls). The different years had different sizes of T04's. Seems that the newer models have the larger turbos. I've gotten two from the Transfer Truck repair shops, they both were off international trucks, one was a T04B 54 trim and the other was a T04E 57 trim

Tell me about this oil hook up issue.

[luvtolean]

I've not yet dealt with it, but somewhere I've seen pics of the hook up for the oil feed to Powerstroke turbos, and you need a flange to make it work.  It's a rectangle shaped opening.  I can't find the pic, but here is a thread where a member was asking about one.

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2619&highlight=Powerstroke+oil

I found it, from Speedtospare's site, here is the oil feed area on the PS turbo.

http://www.speedtospare.com/images/turbo/Turbo11a.jpg

[ocshaman]

Another piece of the turbo puzzle is the BOV.  Although some will say that you don't need it if you car is autp, or if you don't run high psi, i will explain it, and let others chime in on its usefulness.  A Blow off valve is used to release pressure on shifts.  When a person releases the pedal to shift, the throttle body closes. The turbo is still spinning and pressurizing, and with the TB closed, has no where for the pressure to go.  the pressure builds up and stops the turbo from spinning rather abruptly.  This can cause damage to the turbo.  The fix is a BOV.  THe bov is pressure activated so that when the TB closes, the BOV opens, and allows a place for the pressure to go instead of into the turbo.

Some JY BOV's that are used are from Mitsubishi Eclipses, Eagle Talons, and Plymouth Lasers.  The 1st generations years 90-94, are considered better because they hold more pressure, and can also be crushed to hold even more pressure, up to 18-20. THe positives and negatives of this have been discussed many time on DSMtalk.com, and most mustang guys will not be running that much boost, so i will not give instructions on it.
The 95-99 BOV's are made of plastic and do not hold as much boost.  Most i have heard is 10 psi.  They upside to this is that they are sold really cheap or given away.  If you don't plan on running over 10 psi on your turbo, then this would be a very cheap BOV to look into.
There are many other BOV's on the market from cars, and they can be used to, but the background in DSM's that both Chris and I have has given us a preference for what we know works.

[krazcat]

so if im running twins on a blowthrew setup w/am auto  i wouldent need them?:confused:

[gt coupe]

ok here it goes i have a  90 5.05spd coupe  that i want to turbo i also have a 7.3 powerstroke out of my wrecker [changed to gas motor after 3rd zf tranny an 5th 900$ fly wheel i have a tubing bender not mandrel  is it  doable or not  thanks

[ocshaman]

The turbo will work, but the pressbent piping will really hold you back.  the pressbent will slow down gases.  If you had a powerstroke, you should have the pipe right? use it.  It goes cheap on Ebay from what i hear, and you can use what you have too.

[krazcat]

:confused: so would i need bov's if i run a blow threw setup w/an auto?:confused:

[ocshaman]

it can be argued both ways. Some guys don't run them on autos because you don't have to lift to shift, so the TB butterfly won't close, and therefore the turbo won't get the backpressure.  The debate has been had before, and i don't remember much of a conclusion.  My opinion is its a safety net.  One less thing to worry about going wrong, and one more thing to make sure is working right.  Sorry i couldn't help, but it hasn't been hashed out lately on this board, so i can't give you any links.

[10seclx]

quick question about the list at the top.....which of those turbos will mount to a t03 base??

[ocshaman]

As far as i know all the turbos with the TB03 listed at the front.

[10seclx]

how does a t04h flange differ from a t03 flange??

[Rob_O]

Originally posted by 10seclx
how does a t04h flange differ from a t03 flange??

Bolt spacing. Turbonetics has the actual numbers in their catalog and on their site

[10seclx]

so it would NOT bolt right on to a t3 flange?? cause it is for a custome setup on a sunfire, and the header already has a t03 flange on it, and I don't wanna make an adapter plate or change the flange!

[10seclx]

te04h-Smaller and faster spooling than T03. Exhaust Flange interchangeable with T03, found this at

http://members.shaw.ca/megasquirt/manual/mturbo.htm

[1sikstang]

does anyone know what size the turbo is on a earlier volvo 740 turbo w/ intercooler is? just got one t3 with .42/.48, wanted to know if it was the same. thanks in advance

[ocshaman]

Originally posted by 1sikstang
does anyone know what size the turbo is on a earlier volvo 740 turbo w/ intercooler is? just got one t3 with .42/.48, wanted to know if it was the same. thanks in advance

Did you check the list at the top, and do you know the approx year on it?

[Rob_O]

Originally posted by 1sikstang
does anyone know what size the turbo is on a earlier volvo 740 turbo w/ intercooler is? just got one t3 with .42/.48, wanted to know if it was the same. thanks in advance

Go to the page that 10seclx referenced. It mentions the volvo turbo at the bottom. Sounds small from what they say

[1sikstang]

i believe it was a late 80's volvo 740

[Rob_O]

Originally posted by ocshaman

MITSUBISHI Galant (Auto) 88-94 2.2L MHI TD04
MITSUBISHI Galant (Manual) 88-94 2.2L MHI TD05H

As a footnote, there was never a USDM Turbocharged Galant with an automatic. If you see one it's some sort of a grey market car

[1sikstang]

i was told the turbos off the chrysler new yorkers are water cooled, can anyone tell me if this is true or not.